The newspaper interviewed them as witnesses to argue that Rwanda is an unstable country, to the extent that it should not receive migrants from the United Kingdom (UK), based on the agreements these countries made in December 2023.

Ali, who lives in the UK as a refugee, and Ingabire, who leads the unrecognized DALFA Umurinzi party in Rwanda, said that human rights are not respected and that no Rwandan is allowed to express opinions different from the government’s stance.

Channel 4 used another witness, whose voice and name were changed for security reasons, calling him Robert Wood, who said that anyone who tries to criticize the Rwandan government, even from abroad, is pursued.

Makolo stated that the RNC, founded by Kayumba Nyamwasa, is a terrorist group that has attacked Rwanda, resulting in the loss of Rwandan lives. Regarding Ingabire, she said that she collaborated with the FDLR terrorist group in a plan to overthrow the Rwandan government.

She said, “It’s inappropriate for Channel 4 to provide a platform to criminals. The RNC is a terrorist group that has launched grenade attacks and others on Rwandan soil, killing innocent civilians and Rwandans.”

“Victoire Ingabire collaborated with the genocidal FDLR group in plans to remove the government. She was convicted by the court, in a trial that included testimonies from her co-conspirators and extensive evidence, some of which was provided by the Dutch government,” added Makolo.

In this interview, Ingabire mentioned that the supreme court refused to clear her record so she could run in the elections scheduled for July 2024.

Makolo explained that, like in other countries, anyone suspected of crimes is pursued by justice in Rwanda and is not allowed to be a candidate in elections if they come out of prison. She said, “In Rwanda and elsewhere, the law is respected.”

The RNC attacks the government spokesperson referred to were carried out in the City of Kigali in the 2010s. As a result, the court sentenced Nyamwasa to 24 years in prison and stripped him of his ‘Lieutenant General’ rank in the Rwandan military.

Ingabire was sentenced to 15 years in prison after being found guilty of conspiring against the country, intending to deprive it of its freedom and create a group of malefactors.

She was released in 2018 after receiving a pardon from the President, but was later investigated following an attack by the RUD-Urunana group, originating from FDLR, in Musanze in 2019.

Makolo explained that Victoire Ingabire collaborated with the FDLR terrorist group in a plan to overthrow the Rwandan government.

Abdul Karim Ali (left) deputizes Kayumba Nyamwasa in RNC leadership.